Still Ongoing!! -- My P1's Modding History.

[PICKLE]

Well, after a successful mapping session with Bob Rawle yesterday, my car is finally how I want it! :D

It has taken the best part of a year to get it finished, due to unseen problems/faulty parts/Bob being too bloody busy all the time :D etc.. but has been worth it in the end.

Basically I have had the car for a little over 3 years, and have taken it from completely standard to as it is now.

Costs?? Who knows, don't care, and don't really want to think about it! :shock:

I started off with a Full de-cat (from my previous car MY98 UK 4dr) and K+N filter. Ran around like that for around a year :shock:
Knowing what I do now, I was very lucky for it not to go bang.

I bit the bullet, and had an ECUTEK TEK3 Re-map by BRD to make the car safe.
Visited Powerstation in Cheltenham for a rolling road day, and recorded 306.5BHP/262FT/LB on their notoriously low reading rollers. (2nd highest Impreza on the day IIRC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/PowerS1.jpg

Clutch started to slip after the re-map, so an AP Racing Organic Kit was fitted soon after.

Next came a full Gruppe-S manifold and up-pipe, which was wrapped and fitted, along with a Walbro 255 Fuel Pump/FSE Regulator then back to BRD for a map tweak.

Result: 314.5BHP/268FT/LB again at Powerstation. I was bitterly disappointed with this result, and that was the catalyst to take the car to the next stage!! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/PowerS2.jpg

This consisted of a set of 550cc Denso Injectors, A Brand New Turbo Dynamics built Hybrid Turbo TMI 141S (which is basically the same as the TD05/06 20G turbo's that are so popular nowadays).

I also had a custom made Inlet pipe done, to replace the crappy plastic OE one. I also removed the inlet manifold, and re-painted that, fitted Turbo/Injectors/Inlet pipe, & I also fitted a Catch Tank.

I then refitted all back to the car in the January Snow of 2004! :shock: (bloody freezing!)
Also added a Larger Bonnet scoop from DRMotorsport, to feed the TMIC better, along with modifying the Headlight washers, to use with a pressure switch, and act as an IC water spray.

TURBO:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00374.jpg
550's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00361.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/P1withTMIC.jpg

Had another re-map by BRD to suit. I was very happy with the car at this point, as the bigger turbo made all the right noises, and gave the car so much extra oomph.

Off the G-Force rollers this time as part of the RB5OC rolling road day.
Result : 347.8BHP/300FT/LB :D (2nd highest car on the day again, only below a RCM built STI 5 will all the bells + whistles!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/P14KLEonG-ForceRollers.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/G-Forcegraph.jpg

That result was still on the OE TMIC, and the car was suffering abit from the extra heat built up from the bigger turbo, so being a rare car, and not wanting to spoil it too much I was determined NOT to fit a FMIC and hack the bumper up!

At this time, I was approched by Peter @ SPEC-R alloy fabrications and asked whether I would like to be their show car to show off their products for the Classic shape Impreza's. I tried an Uprated TMIC that was made of alloy (matched all their gear :wink: ) BUT, this wasn't really any improvement over the OE STI5 type IC that is fitted as standard!.
This was again highlighted when I revisited BRD to map for it!

PIC SHOWING UPRATED TMIC :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/TMIntercooler.jpg

I got a little bit disheartened at this point, although the car was lovely to drive in this Spec. I finally bit the bullet, and decided FMIC was the only way to go, but being a tight git, I put my name down on Harvey's group buy for a Hybrid FMIC kit.
As the kit arrived on my doorstep, a fellow Scoobynetter approached me and asked if I wanted his old FMIC kit!! (Bloody Typical) :roll:

This was Alan Garrod, who some of you may recognize as having run his UK car @ 400bhp+ with this FMIC kit fitted. I bought the kit from him (Hyperflow FMIC) and so, then I had 2X FMIC's at one time! :shock:

Luckily, sold the Hybrid on for what I paid, (Loverly looking kit BTW, but the Hyperflow was proven, and easier to fit), so I started to scour Flea-Bay for a P1 Splitter to fit to the bumper Alan gave me with the kit.
Luckily, found a complete P1 front bumper on there, and got that to hack up instead! :D

HYPERFLOW KIT :
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/FMICPARTS.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00350.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00341.jpg

Fitted the FMIC which TBH isn't as bad as it seems, took me a Fri afternoon/eve, and was fitted ready for the Rallyday show @ Castle Combe the next day!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/P14KLERallyday.jpg

Back to BRD for re-map, and the this was the start of loadsa little niggling probs that I have just got over!!

Basically, the FSE Reg stared to play up, so that was replaced with an SX Reg, also the 550cc Injectors were maxing out, so again these were replaced with 740cc Tomei versions. In between all this I reckon i must have been back to BRD 2-3 more times, and each time something little caused us trouble, and the last little problem was the Boost Creep at the top end of the rev range! :shock:

For this, I had to remove the Turbo from the car, and 'Port' out the Wastegate hole by 1-1.5mm to cure it. I removed the turbo on the Saturday afternoon after returning from BRD, and by Sunday evening, the Turbo was done, and fitted back on the car!! :D (I'm getting a dab hand at all this Impreza fiddling lark. I am available for hire! LOL :D )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00371.jpg

Also, the Fuel Pump was deemed to be a little 'weak' as it had been running at high FPR on the 550's, so this was replaced too!.

Finally back to Bob yesterday, and we have got the result we have been chasing all year!! A nice clean/safe map running a max of 76% Injector Duty, with No lean spots, No Detenation, and running a max of 1.5bar Boost. The car absolutely flies, and although there are many cars (P1's included) with alot more BHP etc, it really does make for a Very quick point to point road car, that is still very useable around town etc...

I thought I would post this thread up as it may be useful/helpful to others, as there seems to be a huge interest in going down this route of tuning lately, as the Warantee's of most cars are coming to an end, and the parts are becoming more readily available.

FINISHED:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00353.jpg

I am due to visit Power Engineering on Feb 19th as part of the Hampshire Scoobies Rolling Road day, so I will add the results/graph up then.
Can't wait, although the figures will mean nothing in reality, as I know I have all the right components, and have had the car mapped by the best in the business IMHO, so it is as good as it can be at the mo! :D

Thanks for taking the time to read this long (boring maybe?) thread.

James 8)

[benm]

Very nice James 8) Defo not boring :lol: I'd be interest to hear what the results are for it.

Just one question. Are you running all that power with the standard brakes? :shock:

[marky mark]

thats not boring at all pickle. 8)

glad that you are happy with it. nice to see someome who has done the whole lot themselves as well. :D

the engine bay looks fantastic.(i am very jealous!)

looking forward to the next rr results.

[PICKLE]

Brakes are Godspeed 335mm conversion. Standard calipers, but bigger discs/pads etc.

As I mentioned in the thread, off to Power Engineering in Feb, so will post up results accordingly :D

Cheers guys.

[marky mark]

what did you paint your inlet manifold with pickle? looks as though its stayed on well. mine iks a bit flaky in places so thinking of doing the same.

[Viv]

Great stuff, Pickle, and thanks for posting up all the info, too. :D
I think it will be very helpful for people who are considering going down this route! :twisted:
Absolutely stunning engine bay and no corners cut. Nice work!

[Dave]

The car looks great mate.
Thanks for all the info, makes for an interesting read as I want to do something similar to my car in this coming year.

PE have an excellent rr and I was very impressed with the service there, you won't be disappointed.

[SHAGGYDOG]

great account and very informative 8)

[buffer Dude]

Pickle,

Stunning engine bay 8), and the discription was spot on for us non technical numpties :D

I really hope Mrs Fast and Furious does not see your car at any the shows or my bank account will be trashed :shock:

[terryb]

Nice one Pickle - very informative and look forward to your results at our RR day. (ps - I may have to put lube oil on the rollers to stop your figures being higher then mine.. :lol: :lol: )

Buffer - you may catch up with Pickle at the Andover meet next Sunday.. :lol:

[PICKLE]

LOL @ Terry :D I was kinda hoping to turn up quietly, and just surprise a few people there, but that's that out the window now! :D

Ps, Can you make sure that PE use BOTH fans on the day Terry!?

I am hoping to attend the meet next week, just so long as its not raining!! :P

[buffer Dude]

Buffer - you may catch up with Pickle at the Andover meet next Sunday..
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Looking forward to it mate, bringing the camera :wink:

[terryb]

LOL @ Terry :D I was kinda hoping to turn up quietly, and just surprise a few people there, but that's that out the window now! :D

Ps, Can you make sure that PE use BOTH fans on the day Terry!?

I am hoping to attend the meet next week, just so long as its not raining!! :P

Raining - what do you mean??? You're not a dry weather driver are you?? :lol: :lol:

So come on then - what figures are you hoping for on the day??

[terryb]

Pickle - you'll have some serious competition too.

Colin C in Hants has done all sorts to his motor - been featured in magazines too - although he won't be there on Sunday.

Also NathanL has done a fair bit to his STi9.

Let the battle commence.

Oh and I know I'll defo have the highest power run of the day when I go - as I'm on 1st - LOL.. :lol: :lol:

[KGB]

8) Car looks stunning m8 :!:

[Dave]

LOL @ Terry :D I was kinda hoping to turn up quietly, and just surprise a few people there, but that's that out the window now! :D

Ps, Can you make sure that PE use BOTH fans on the day Terry!?

I am hoping to attend the meet next week, just so long as its not raining!! :P

DOH!
I should have got them to do that with mine

[PICKLE]

Competition!! What's that??

I'm not there to be the highest BHP etc Terry, just using the day as a way of judging how the final mods have affected the car's output! :D

I know there are plenty of other cars out there putting out bigger figures than me, but I have just done what i would think is the limit for the 'average' persons wants/needs (ie, not going internal etc...)

Thought I'd post this up to help others, as I know that I couldn't have done all this without help from people who have done the same sort of things. There's too much secrecy in the Subaru tuning world IMHO :?

Being realistic, 370bhp and 320ftlb would be nice 8)

[benm]

Very nice James 8) Defo not boring :lol: I'd be interest to hear what the results are for it.

Just one question. Are you running all that power with the standard brakes? :shock:

:?:

[PICKLE]

Ben :roll: :roll:

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject:

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Brakes are Godspeed 335mm conversion. Standard calipers, but bigger discs/pads etc.

[benm]

Oops :oops:

I blame someone else (not sure who yet) :oops:

[TurboSi]

Awesome P1 James, glad you got it how you wanted it mate. Was your car on the Spec-R stand at TRAX?

Excellent

Cheers

Si

[PICKLE]

Si, Thanks for the nice comments, and Yes it was my car! 8)
What a brilliant day that was :D

[Money]

you will keep modding :D

[PICKLE]

Frank, :D

Only to put 2.5ltr in if it blows!! :oops:

Honestly, I just want to drive it this year, and enjoy it. Not have to wait to have it re-mapped for added parts etc....... :roll:

[Money]

I know how you feel mate. That was my intention when i built my last engine. Now its calling me for that extra power as i know with a few tweeks, change in 2.5 internals and i can play with more power and nitrous. So my car has come off road for a bit

It wouldnt be off for so long if suppliers would get me their bits! lol

[terryb]

Can't wait to see this motor in the flesh mate. I'll certainly be pickling your brains for info anyway. :lol: :lol:

Sounds like an awesome drive :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hope to see you Sunday

[PICKLE]

Well Money you were right!! Been 3 days only, and I have already spent more money on the car!! :shock: ...................................Nothing major though, just ordered some Blue Lightened Pulley wheels 8) :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00363.jpg

[Money]

lol told you mate!

I give it a week to your next purchase! lol

[PICKLE]

Fitted the pulleys today :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00364.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00365.jpg

[marky mark]

"gofastbits" :roll:

look 8) though james

[PICKLE]

Cheaper than the RCM versions though Mark!
Exactly the same, just different writing on them.

Plus I got a free cap with them! :P :D

[spanky]

Very Bling, looking cool 8)

[Dave]

Looks cool mate 8)

Any advantage for fitting items like that, or did you just do it for the colour?

[PICKLE]

Well they less than the originals! The OE ones were something like 6kgs altogether, whereas these weigh in at about 1.5kgs for the lot!

I suppose its like having a lightened flywheel, but mainly cos they look :cool: :D

[Money]

they defoo look :D

[steves p1]

well done pickle car looks better in real life wish i had the money mate :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Jad]

SSHWEET!!! =P~ :D

[PICKLE]

Might have to change the title on this thread!! :shock:

Seems I can't stop adding things to the car still.

Pulleys the other week, now got a Carbon Fibre Look Airbox to install!

Pics will follow when done :D

[marky mark]

you will keep modding :D
:whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

[PICKLE]

:oops: :oops:

[marky mark]

would not worry pickle. i have a bad feeling i have started on the rocky road to pickledom :lol:

and i blame you and all the others of your ilk. :wink:

nipped into roger clarkes to pick up a lambda sensor last night. stayed there an hour or so. came out expecting to be a few grand lighter in a few weeks time. :evil:

[PICKLE]

Hehehehe!! :D That's it now Mark.

I would get your missus to cut up the credit card now whilst you still have some cash left!! :wink:

I have had a little fiddle with the airbox I got today. Covered the outside in heatmat, and have used some nice anodized Dzus fasteners.

Will go about fitting/modifying it to my car tomorrow. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/AIRBOX1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/AIRBOX2.jpg

[Money]

Looks pretty good mate, who supplied if you dont mind me asking?

[PICKLE]

It's a one-off Frank. Made by Alan Garrod, and passed on to me, as he has a totally different spec motor under the bonnet now!

I had to modify it a little to fit my car (Power Steering Res is now where the Carbon cannister should be, so it got in the way a little :D)

Fitted to the car this afternoon. Bitch of a job. Will post up piccies tomorrow somewhen after I have tidied it up a little under there! :cool:

Have done away with the vent scoop now, so car looks a little more discreet too! ;)

[dougie549]

Hi Pickle

As soon as i saw that i knew whose it was :P :twisted:

i think i am going to have to stop you speaking to Alan now as you might end up going the same route as he has now. Either that or you would be as well to employ him to do your car :roll: :twisted: :roll: :twisted:

So come on add up all the bit's and see how many bit's you have bought from him for your car Ha Ha Ha

Cheers Dougie :D :shock: 8)

[PICKLE]

Dougie, I can't thank Alan enough. He has done all the hard work for me! :D Tried and tested various products to see which is best, then I come along and buy it all off of him! :D
I don't think I will embark on the level of tuning Alan has now undertaken, but in a couple of years, who knows...he might sell me the complete engine etc.... :D

Anyway, here are some pics of the finished install :cool:

This shows the side panel without lid on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00377.jpg

This one the same, but from other side.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00379.jpg

The same shot as the first but with lid on.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00385.jpg

And again with the 2nd shot.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00386.jpg

And finally!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00387.jpg

And 8)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/P14KLE-latest.jpg

Now it is finished.........:D

[Dave]

That looks great mate.

You engine bay is soooo clean 8)

[PICKLE]

Cheers Dave. Must start using abit more now! :roll:

[essexscooby]

PICKLE do you have a dinner table or do you just use the engine bay :?: :lol:

TOP stuff mate you really are the TART of the club 8)

[marky mark]

i know i am odd.......

but pickles engine bay is (almost) masturbatory material :oops:

looks fantastic mate 8)

[buffer Dude]

Marky Mark "your a sad man" :?

[Viv]

:lol: @ Mark!

Pickle, engine bay looks cool, as ever, but what does the airbox cover do?
Does it channel the air in from the same place as the OEM air box? If so, I assume it's more effective than the bonnet scoop otherwise you wouldn't have bothered with the hassle of installing it?

[PICKLE]

Mark, I really am starting to worry about you! :shock: :D

If you look behind the headlight, the lid of the box is bent up slightly. This then seats against the bonnet when down, and air is drawn in over the headlight and into the box. Also have a feed plumbed in from the wedge below the indicator which feeds the box also.

Have removed the scoop in vent as it is no longer needed. :)

The idea is to contain the air for the filter in a cooler environment than the rest of the engine bay etc..

[marky mark]

:P :P :P

[PICKLE]

I'm bored already! :cry: :roll:

I have nothing left to do with the car!. Need to start riding the crosser again I reckon to keep me busy at the weekends :D

[j healy]

more than happy to let you use my car to modify.for a price of course :wink:

[Viv]

:lol:

[essexscooby]

or just take all your bits off PICKLE and give them to me :D

Then you can start ALL over again 8)

See how good we are to you? :P

[marky mark]

Mark, I really am starting to worry about you! :shock:

pickle, just to show its not only me with the 'odd' feelings :wink:

http://www.p1woc.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3782

[PICKLE]

Yeah but that's a proper car, not a tinbox like we have got! :D :P




OK Mark, you got me! :oops:

[marky mark]

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :lol: 8)

[Money]

i REALLY like that :D :D :D

[PICKLE]

Another little cosmetic update! :D

I was desperate to fit some Gas Powered Bonnet lifting struts since fitting the Airbox, as the OE bonnet stay used to catch on the lid of the box when putting the bonnet up!! :(

I never imagined this little addition would be so much of a hassle/brain wrencher :roll:

I looked around worldwide to find a kit to fit the GC8 classic shaped Impreza's, but none could be found :(

Everyone seems to be catering for the New-age cars now, and there were a couple of different kits available for these in the U.S.A. Contacted these companies, and none could help me out!.

Next approach was to contact 2 people that I found out had fitted some to their classics, but again, the info was sparce (although I did manage to get a couple of photo's)

I bought a kit for the MK3 Golf thinking I maybe able to adapt the kit to fit my car. This was a bad choice of kit I feel, as the struts were a litlle too long, and the mounts were unsuitable for the car!.

I had to get the 2X threaded ball joint mounts taken down from an M8 thread to a M6 thread. This would allow them to be screwed into the OE wing fixing. The other balljoint was a Self tapper type thread, which again I had to cut down, and modify the thread to take an M6 nut.

I then had to cut the struts down by 15mm, and re-thread the ends.

After a couple of mistakes (read : hole drilled in the wrong place! :shock: :P ) I managed to fit them to the car! :D :D

This has enabled me to remove the OE stay, and thus not catch on the Airbox lid :)

Bonnet opens a little higher than Normal, but this is good as it allows more room to work, plus more light is let in to enable me to see when I drop bloody nuts/bolts down there! :D

Pics as follows:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00376.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00375.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00378.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/bonnetstrut.jpg

With regards to the group buy that Money may organize, I would go with what ever he can come up with, as this kit I bought was a Nightmare to be honest!. I may yet upgrade them to a better suited kit when it can be found!

Cheers,

James 8)

[Subie Leerdam]

Damn...i wanna have them to, mate.
Very nice work...keep it up !!!!

Grts Jeroen

[marky mark]

looks good pickle. from your text thought they were gonna be a bit meccano but looks a proper job 8)

notice you fail to mention that opening it a little more will allow a wider viewing / slobbering arc at the meets and shows. :P

never get bored looking at pics of your engine james. whats left to come?

[PICKLE]

Honestly Mark, it was a real pig of a job! If you had the right kit for the car it could be done in about 10-15mins tops, but I had to do all the guesswork regarding the right angles/lengths of the struts etc...... :evil:


There honestly isn't really anymore I can do without going absolutely stupid on the motor :shock:

It runs OK, so no point disturbing it, and if it does I have to decide whether to put a 2.5l in, and run the same set-up but with a little LESS boost, and have a nice torquey 400/400 car, OR go the RCM 2.0l with diesel liners/uprated pistons/rods/crank etc....

Actually, thinking of it, I've just answered my own Ques there :D
2.5l = easy install, and more than enough power for me whilst keeping it under prob £2K and less stress on engine.

I may have a plan with regards to the wheels in the near future.. :wink:

More about that later :D

Perhaps we ought to chip in together and buy Hairballs car, and strip the bits off that to make 2X nice cars :?: LOL

[marky mark]

top idea. i will have the engine, i will give you the chassis. ok, you will have more metal than me but i guess im just a nice guy :wink:

2.5 sounds good.

[Viv]

:lol: Nice work, Pickle! That modding bug just won't go away, will it? :wink:

[Money]

looks spot on mate!

before you buy an engine, speak to me mate!

[PICKLE]

Cheers, Frank. Might need to after Saturday's run down at Power Engineering! :?

Will post up results and spec after the run. :D

[essexscooby]

top Job on the struts Pickle 8)

Good luck for Sunday :D

I was also thinking of getting a full size pic of your engine to put in my engine bay is that OK with you mate :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[PICKLE]

:D :wink:



Just another quickie!

Got to fit these babies on in a mo. (Bleeding pi55ing down out there at the mo!) :cry:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/SPEC-RCaps.jpg

[essexscooby]

BLING 8)

[Syko]

are they for your pedals so you know which one to press? :lol: :lol:

[Syko]

are they for your pedals so you remember which is which? :lol:

[marky mark]

you are a dude pickle 8) 8)

[PICKLE]

Dave I heard you the first time dumbass!! :D

[Syko]

yeah whateva minger :oops:
stupid computers!

[PICKLE]

Well, a disappointing day at Power Engineering yesterday!!

Went down there as part of a day organized by TerryB (Very well organized I must add too :D ) basically to run the car to see what difference the latest mods/mapping have made to the car.

My how I was gutted :cry:

Firstly, I want to explain my theory for the poor result, ( I said explain and not make an excuse LOL :lol: )

The car had just been driven 120 odd miles, and was virtually straight on the rollers. The bonnet was never lifted at all, which meant the engine bay was Very hot ( I have the vents blanked off still)

The car was left idling on the rollers for a matter of 5mins or so before the run.

The run began, I was sat in passenger seat, to keep an eye on things, and I noticed the car peaked out at 1.3bar! (Easily holds 1.45-1.5bar on the road). Next 2 runs resulted in the same!

The result: 355bhp and 298ft/lb :roll:

That is less torque than last time when I still had 550cc injectors, and the OE TMIC :shock: Gained 7bhp though!

Graph
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/PowerEngineeringgraph2.jpg

I will now be attending another RR day in April @ WRC Technologies in Silverstone to see whether this result was a phony or not!

Results can be found here : http://www.hampshiresubaru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=599

[Dave]

Surprised at that result.
Mine car was put on the rollers in a similar condition to yours and produced a really good result.
Better luck for the next rr chap

[marky mark]

what was your intake charge temperature pickle? did you notice mate.

i say this cos when hairballs car was on the RR in leicester, his was running high and it killed it stone dead.

:? :?

[PICKLE]

Charge temp was OK Mark. It was around 16-17'C IIRC whilst running on boost. It was the load on the rollers which wasn't enough IMHO as it only hit 1.3bar max, whereas on the road it HOLDS 1.45bar all day long :D

There were a number of disappointed runners there yesterday! Another 400bhp potential car only made 340 something, and a 450+bhp car struggled to make 430bhp too.

Will put it down to experience, as I know that the car has more than what is shown above, just needs to be proven! :D

[Dave]

Pickle,

What do you mean by the load on the rollers?

[marky mark]

rolling roads. really useful but sometimes not all that.

these are a comparitive tool and nothing else. awful lot of rubbish about bhp and torque figures are banded about but a lot of it should be taken with a pinch of salt.

I have spent literally days setting up carburation / injection / ignition and messing around with exhausts and intake mods on my own and others race bikes, and the one thing you soon learn is you can get a big variation from day to day (even with corrected figures for different temps and air densitys etc)

I have witnessed on one of my own bikes 128 bhp one evening and 114 the next morning (corrected).

the real use of them is for set up and testing purposes i.e do a run. make a change, do another run.

Also at work, we have dumped all of our rolling road dynos and only use engine dynos, where the lump drives the dyno directly by chain.

with the RR's there was just to much variation, for example 3 or 4 psi difference in tyre pressure can make a appreciable difference in power and torque.

i wouldnt loose sleep over it pickle. if the car feels fit, and your **** dyno tells you its improved, then you can be sure it has.

[Jazz]

James I wouldn't pay to much head to the result, with you only holding 1.3bar it doesn't reflect the cars true performance. It also highlights why Bob does all his mapping on the road & not the rollers.

[marky mark]

Pickle,

What do you mean by the load on the rollers?

dave, the rollers have a brake on them or otherwise the car would just rev up to quickly, i.e it would not be under load.

the force that this brake puts onto the rollers should be the same from day to day but is not always the case. when they calibrate the dyno, all they do is check / adjust that this force or load is correct.

so if the brake is loading up the rollers a bit to heavily, you get low results.

what pickle is saying, the load on the rollers was low, the engine was revving to quick, therefore it was not allowing the turbo to spool up and create boost as it would do under normal driving conditions.

[Dave]

Thanks Mark :D

[marky mark]

:oops: sorry for answering a question directed to you pickle :oops:

[Dave]

I didn't mind who answered :D

[PICKLE]

Thanks Mark! :)

[Money]

Sorry to hear that buddy - wouldnt take to much notice.

I have seen many guys come out and say it made 1.4bar on the road but rollers its only making 1.2 for some reason :(

[PICKLE]

Feel a little bit better after getting an E-mail back from Bob Rawle. :)

I scanned the graph, and sent it with a description of what happened Saturday and he replied with

: "HI, curve shapes are excellent and it pulls all the way up, I do think the figures a bit low I must say, you weren't the only one who seemed to be down btw. Given it ran nearly 0.2 bar less boost then you lost circa 24 bhp over what it should be doing which would put it where it should be, torque suffered as they didn't load the car to spool properly."

I know some people will say that as he mapped the car, he is bound to say something like that, but those of you who know Bob, will know he is being honest!

So, in his eyes 355bhp + the lost 24odd bhp = 379bhp :D

Not quite the elusive 400bhp, but good enough for me, especially with a margin of safety included in that. :)

[Dave]

Just had another look at your rr graph and it looks awesome.
Brilliant torque line and it hold power for quite sometime, and its not even boosting how it should be.
The car must be brilliant to drive on the road.

[p1prodrive]

james...very impressive engine bay cleanest ive seen(p1)...and like the rest said you have deffo made a difference who cares about figuers its all about on the day :wink:

[Launchmotorsport]

What products do you use to keep your engine so gleaming,as i'm gonna be putting mine in a couple of magazines when i get it back and if i can get it half as shinney as yours i'd be well chuffed. :D

[PICKLE]

I dont use anything in particular when cleaning the engine bay.

I had most of it apart during the turbo fitting etc, so just removed things, cleaned them up with WD40 etc, then either repainted, or cleaned up the parts before refitting! :)

I have also, replaced most of the nuts/bolts around the bay with Stainless Steel Allen bolts, which beleive me makes alot of difference.

The alloy parts, I just get repolished when they get dirty, as SPEC-R use the car for shows/promotion so they look after me that way :D

I just clean/dry under the bonnet everytime I wash the car, so keeps it clean that way.

(It's not easy to keep it that way, believe me! :? )

[Launchmotorsport]

nice one,i've got all spec r and it does get alot of water marks onit,plenty of elbow grease i spose.

[PICKLE]

Best thing to use on them is a clean/new wet chamois leather.

Wipe it along the grain/polishing direction in the metal. On items that get hot, eg Header Tanks etc, leave them til they are cool, then wipe over.

If the water marks don't go, then you can use something like 'PEEK' metal polish gently, to polish out the marks.

Ps.. If you have any info/pics of your set-up now, could you mail them to me. I'd love to have a closer look. :wink:

[PICKLE]

Back on topic, just a few cosmetics to get ready for the show season. Bought myself some decent polish/wax etc. Waiting for better weather :roll:

Sent the Airbox Lid off this week, to get it copied in Real Carbon Fibre. :cool:

Will post a pic when it gets back. It will match the Slam Panel Cover.

Was going to do this myself with a sheet of carbon, but soon realised that you cannot bend carbon, after it has been cured! :oops:

Got my name down for another Rolling Road day, this time @ WRC Technologies, up at Silverstone racing circuit. It's run by Chris Davies who used to run G-Force, and the rollers are the same set-up as at G-Force, so should give me a better reading, and comparison to my G-Force graph, posted earlier in the thread. :D

I WILL GET SOME DECENT FIGURES IF IT KILLS ME! :twisted:

[Jazz]

sounds good. post up a pic when you get your lid back.

When is your RR?

[PICKLE]

Its being organized by The Dorset group, but as I said its @ Silverstone Race circuit. Its open to anyone. Get your name down :D

The link is posted in Events section.

[marky mark]

pickle, change the name of this thread mate.

its continuing........my modding addiction.

:wink: :D

[PICKLE]

Mark, Put these words in a sentence for me:

1. Kettle
2. Black
3. Pot

:D :P

[marky mark]

touche' dartaignan, touche'

ive only just ble*ding started compared to you dude!

:wink: :lol:

[PICKLE]

Just a couple more updated pics. :D

Got the Airbox back after having it re-made in Real Carbon Fibre (to match the Slam Panel Cover)

Took ages to get it done :roll: but looks better now IMHO :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/carbon1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/carbon2.jpg

Pretty much finished under here now I reckon. \:D/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/latestbaypic.jpg

One of the outside for a change! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/100_0213.jpg


Got some Droplinks to fit, then up to Powerstation to get the alignment/bumpsteer done.

[mr freeze]

:shock: :shock: now that does look nice mate ............... :wink: :wink:

[essexscooby]

tut tut i see a few black hoses still under there and why havent you chromed your alternator [-X :lol:

looking BLING as ever mate 8)

[Dave]

Words cannot describe how good that looks.

[Viv]

8)

[marky mark]

yes pickle,

reckon the carbon fibre has finished the whole lot off very nicely mate! 8)

[Launchmotorsport]

how long has it taken,start to near finish as that is one hell of an engine bay 8)

[Jad]

V tidy matey - sweet 8)

[PICKLE]

Jonesting, I have had the car for 4 yrs. Was completely standard when I got it, (still had all that crappy goo all under the bonnet area that they put on it from new! :roll: )

It all started really when the Inlet manifold came off, so I re-painted it.
Everything else has either been painted, or replaced with Alloy, or Stainless Steel. A few Anodized bits have also been added, and of course, the Carbon Fibre bits too. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/100_0212.jpg

[j healy]

how many miles has it covered.
looks nice and clean

[PICKLE]

+50K :D

[marky mark]

class qoute incoming:

"it started when i took the inlet manifold off to paint it" :P

i started when i saw pickles car last autumn in the flesh. long way to go yet though, his engine bay looks even better in the flesh than in pics 8)

[Dave]

I remember seeing the car at Trax, it looked awesome 8)

[Launchmotorsport]

i must admit i saw it at the rs owners track day at castle coombe last summer,and it was the final push to do mine(with a little help from a friend,some of you will know what i mean there) :wink:,so i would like to thank you for that,but my wife would have something to say to you and its not nice,as she's been on bread and water ever since,so i can afford it :lol: :lol:

[PICKLE]

Right then, Not wanting to be outdone by Marks excellant thread, I have had a little up-date...

Nothing serious, just that after my most recent dissappointing Rolling Road result (don't want to talk about it!! :D) I got back in contact with the living legend that is Bob Rawle.

We now have a flat 1.4bar of boost in 4th and 5th all the way to the redline!! :D :D
Believe me, this has made a hell of a difference to the car. It absolutely flies round to the redline now.

Power now : ???? But its made 355bhp @1.23bar, so @ 1.4bar = ???


Shiny bits will be on full view this weekend @ Japfest Castle Combe on SPEC-R Alloy's stand in the Paddock. :mrgreen:

[marky mark]

good stuff pickle. your the mentor mate! i started that thread cos i thought this one and iwans were a good read, and i keep coming back to this thread to look at the pics and copy things! :oops:

glad your happier with the car. you had a face like a vicar's without a choirboy at silverstone.

[Jazz]

pickle what have you changed to get 1.4 or is it soley a map tweak? Either way you must be 370+ I would have though, nice one :twisted:

[Dave]

That car must fly.
Glad to hear you happy with it.

I am surprised you can hold that sort of boost to the redline?

[PICKLE]

Solely a Map tweak! :D

It maxes out at 1.4bar, then just stays there til I dare to let it!!! I dont drive it til the redline in every gear on the road, as traffic doesn't usually allow it! :P

Was a little disheartened as Mark mentioned, and was ready to swap out the Turbo for something bigger, but decided against it for cost reasons, and thought i'd give this one another chance.
If I went bigger, then it would be more laggier etc..

Happier now for sure. :)

[Iwan]

Bah - you'll be getting more torque than me now then! [-X ;)

Nice one. \:D/

[Launchmotorsport]

sounds really nice mate

[PICKLE]

Just added a 3" all the way De-Cat downpipe. :mrgreen:

If I ever do another Rolling road day, it will be interesting to see whether this makes any difference. Only did it as one became available really. :?

[marky mark]

keep our eyes open for another one we are both avaliable for pickle. especially if its at wrc technologies again. as well as the difference in your downpipe, would like to see pickle V markymark on a more even footing than last time :lol:

[PICKLE]

Yeah will do mate. Either there, or G-Force I reckon. (Same set-up, if not a little better)

You aren't really giving me a chance though mate, as your turbo is bigger than mine! :P

[Dave]

There should be a P1 rolling road shoot out.

[PICKLE]

Yeah good idea Dave, but most members on here are paranoid about their motors blowing!!! :?

How about starting a new thread, using either WRC Tech or G-Force as a venue (Both quite central)

[marky mark]

good idea. i will do it now :wink:

[Viv]

I'll come along, if only to see two monsters of the P1 world! :lol:
(...and their cars! :wink: :lol: )

[marky mark]

I'll come along, if only to see two monsters of the P1 world! :lol:
(...and their cars! :wink: :lol: )

saved you the journey viv. :wink:

farmer pickle at work "oohhhh aaaaaaaargh need to fix moiii combine aarvesterr after this job"
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http://price.ou.edu/pcblabs/pcblabs_body/Classfiles/Class%20Files%20NP/BCC%20Media%20Files/StockImages/Farmer.jpg
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and yours truly (admittedly in my younger years)
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http://www.monodam.com/2002Halloween/images/026%20Lucky%20nerd.jpg
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sorry for mullering your thread pickle :oops: but could not resist. :roll:

[PICKLE]

Thanks Mark!!!

Report back on the fitting of the 3" downpipe...............

Done a few miles now on it, and it Definitely Feels quicker now!! :mrgreen: It does feel as if there was some kind of restriction there before, and it has now been released.. I know you may find it hard to believe, but honestly i think the car is quicker now.. We will see if it helped at the G-Force P1WOC RR day in Nov. ;) (I would love to give Mark a run for his money, but feel I may fall someway short!! :( )

Thought I might add some trivial things just keep up with the Jones's so to speak!!!........
Bought some JDM Electrically Folding Mirrors to fit, seeing as the car now resides in a garage. Usual story, garages built so small you can hardly fit the car in as it is, let alone put any other of the usual clutter that lives in peoples garages!! (See Marks thread for a good example!! :P)

Will post up some pics when I get round to fitting them :roll:

Also, bought some LED sidelight bulbs to try, which should smarten the look up at the front.
Toying with the idea of using some 100W Headlight bulbs in there too, although have been put off abit about the wiring not being upto it, and melting etc.....

Any thoughts??

[marky mark]

im sure you have done the searches on SN pickle. i remember at least a couple of instances of the wires melting. if you are keen it may not be to much of a job to rewire back to the loom. depends how far you need to go back.

or try them with a lower rated fuse and see what happens :? . my garage is tidy now but still has 2 bikes in there. gonna sell them soon and then i will be after some JDM mirrors. where did you come across them?

[Jazz]

James you'll have to change your turbo if you want to take on Mark I feel :D

Good news on the d/p, I know it was bugging you to change it.

Mirrors will be a simple swap over and save you getting out & folding them in yourself.

What do these LED sidelights look like? How bright are they? I wouldn't try using 100w builbs, they will melt the wiring harness. I had a set for a while then replaced it with a HID kit. Put the bulbs in my Mum's Honda & it melted the bulb holder, stay well clear :x

[PICKLE]

Jazz, I know you're right about the turbo!! :( :roll:

Mirrors will be done over the weekend somewhen, already put the switch in there ;)

The LEDs are brilliant, but they do show up the headlights as being abit 'yellow' looking.
I would love to fit some HIDs really, but the cost, and the fact the car doesnt really see darkness too often are putting me off that idea!

Im sure I got some of the so-called phillips blue vision bulbs in there, and they're still crap!.

Mark, Mirrors where abit of a find!! ;) Didn't even need painting either :P Suprised how heavy they are though, I reckon that was the reason for taking them off the P1 in the first place??

Jazz, you should be able to re-use that piece of hose with your HKS FMIC.

[Jazz]

Money's new turbo will be interesting, I'm waiting for the specs :twisted:

Great news on the hose :D

I have HID on the headlamps & they make the Philips blue visions side lights look pale. Can you tell me where you got them & how much they cost? Have you got a pic of them on your car?

Lucky sod, you got the mirrors in sonic blue :mrgreen:

[PICKLE]

Jazz Link is here: www.ultraleds.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=44_55&products_id=676&osCsid=52d12b945465a9572f72f3bdf44851ed

I will take some pics of lights/mirrors etc soon to post up here.

[Jazz]

Cheers for that James \:D/ Are they twin packs or will I need to order two?

[PICKLE]

They're single items. Order 2 :)

[Jazz]

Cheers :mrgreen:

[marky mark]

i think there wont be much difference at all between pickles car and mine on the RR. james has a much better balanced package with the FMIC. i know how quick my temps rise on the road, and it will probably be worse on the RR :(

reckon after the first WOT run it will be up at 50 plus degrees, and after that the soak etc will be to much for the fan to cope with to get it down to near ambient. the second run will probably be starting off at 30 degg and the job will be f*cked by then.

[Coxy]

I can imagine it will be really upsetting when you're only pushing out 380bhp! :-({|= :P

[PICKLE]

Right then.....

Fitted the mirrors this morning. I have taken a few photos of how it was done, but to be honest it was a piece of pi55 to do!!! :mrgreen:

To start with, remove the door card from the doors. This is probably the hardest/trickiest part!!
Be careful not to break off any tabs etc.. Then remove the little triangle plastic cover that covers the mirror mounting area. You should be left with something like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00006.jpg

Unclip the wire harness that you can see in the pic. Then its just a case of removing the 3x screws that fix the mirror to the door. Shown here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00011.jpg

Remove mirror from car, and thread the new wire and mirror back into the correct place. Refit the 3x screws and plug harness back into the other half..

In this pic, you can see the extra 2pins in the plug that control the folding motor (the one on the right). (The P1 already has this wiring in the loom, so its just a case of plug in the new switch, and mirror and away you go!! :mrgreen: )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00009.jpg

OE P1 mirror, and the JDM folding one side by side. (Folding one is on the Right as you look at it!!)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00010.jpg

When assembled, they will fold in at the flick of a switch. (This is the replacement switch that you need. Not as nice to use as the OE, but oh well! :roll: )
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00013.jpg

Finally.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00012.jpg

I also fitted the LED sidelights that I bought the other day. They are a simple plug and play jobby!

Pics: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00014.jpg

Working: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00018.jpg

I really need to get some decent headlight bulbs now, as these show up the yellowy nature of the headlights!! :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00019.jpg

Although they look blue in that pic, they arent really that bluey, more of just a bright white light. :)

Thanks for looking! :mrgreen:

[marky mark]

good pics pickle.

bit jealous it truth be told, i want them mirrors :(

[Jazz]

nice one pickle, those side lights look the business 8) Should be getting mine soon.

All you need now is the HID for the main beams :P

[Viv]

8)

[PICKLE]

HID's. mmmmmmmmmmm................

No dough though I'm afraid! :( :(

Which kit did you choose in the end Jazz? The kits on E-Bay are nice and cheap, but they're abit cr4ppy so I'm told??

Mark, I might have the mirrors you want, but you have the Turbo and Suspension, Brakes that I would like, so that makes it 3-1 to you I think!! :P

[Jazz]

I got the AutoLamps kit, its easy to install and was £300 IIRC. Had them for 3 years now & no problems. Only down side is the fog/spot lights stop working & these will need to be rewired if you want these to work :( Danny got a kit from Japan & that didn't interfer with his spot lights, will ask him for some more details.

Will stick up a pic with the new side lights to see how they all colour match

[PICKLE]

Jazz, did you get round to taking any pics of your lights with the new sidelight bulbs in??
I only ask as I'm gonna be buying a set of HID's soon and wanted to see what they look like together!! :mrgreen:

What K are yours too?? Think Im gonna go for the 6000K ones as they are nice and white and not too blue so that the rozzers will hassle me all the time! :)

[Jazz]

Yep, here are the pics. The HID's make the Philip's side lights look very yellow but the LEDs are great. I have 5100K, these are not as blue as 6000K but they have better luminance so the road is better lit up.

Before
http://www.hvweb.co.uk/jazz/P1010280.JPG

After
http://www.hvweb.co.uk/jazz/P1010289.JPG

Which kit are you looking at? Mine is an Autolamps one and you lose the driving lights when you install it. :roll: I had to rewire them to get them working again. Would like to get some HID for them to 8) Pic is with the Philips still in, they & the driving light are pale yellow compared to the HID's.

http://www.hvweb.co.uk/jazz/P1010281.JPG

[PICKLE]

Gonna go for the X5 Bi-Xenon kit which is a simple plug and play kit. No ignitors etc.. Simple plug into existing Headlight harness, and then put the High/Low Beam HID bulbs into the headlight and away you go!!

I am reliably informed that they will continue to work the Spots with no hassles. :mrgreen:

Cheers Jazz, thats made my mind up now!! 8)

[marky mark]

how much better does that look :shock: is there a massive improvment in the lighting Jazz?

[PICKLE]

Oi you, P155 off :mrgreen:

Get back to fitting your FMIC :P

[Jazz]

Sounds good James, get some pics up of the kit when you get it. Xenon's make a big difference, like night & day :P

[PICKLE]

Will do Jazz mate. ;)

Thanks again.

[marky mark]

Oi you, P155 off :mrgreen:

Get back to fitting your FMIC :P


:( :( :( told off.

dont you mean get back to work! not done anything on fitting the FMIC since sun, and probably wont till thursday evening.

[kevp1]

IMPRESSIVE MATE!!!!!!!

makes my modding history look at bit poor....
1. Buy car
2. Blow engine on second day
3. Get car back
4. Run in new engine
5.Tint windows
6. Fit mudflaps

LOL :D :D

[PICKLE]

:D

[Jazz]

how much better does that look :shock: is there a massive improvment in the lighting Jazz?

There is a big improvement over oem. H4 bulbs have been dropped for headlight for sometime now. All manufactures are going for 2 sets of lights, one dipped & one full beam as these are better. The kit i have is geared up for dipped and high beam is really only for flashing and doesn't really change the beam pattern much. That said the dipped are more than enough & now I have the driving light if the needs arises.

[marky mark]

Pickle, have you got any pics of your cold air set up and how you are feeding from the front of the bumper. be a shame for me not to do something while its all in bits :wink:

[PICKLE]

Mark, YHM :mrgreen:

[marky mark]

cheers pickle. :wink: a couple straight back at ya :D

[PICKLE]

HID's arrived today! :mrgreen:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/HIDBox.jpg

The kit is a piece of urine to fit apparently, no extra wiring involved, just plug and play!! 8)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/HIDKit.jpg

The hardest part is I'm gonna have to remove the front bumper to find somewhere nice and snug for the ballast's to reside!

Hopefully will get them fitted this week, but with the nights drawing in, I might run out of daylight! :(

Will take some pics and post up on here when done.

Oh yeah, I bought another little present too, but I'm still waiting for it to arrive :P :mrgreen: :P

Watch this space :mrgreen:

[Jazz]

That looks sweet :mrgreen:

Does the HID lamp go straight into the head light like that or does it have a holder?

[PICKLE]

The bulbs are held in the same as the OE bulbs Jazz. They use the 3pin plug to take the power/signal from the OE wiring harness, then into the ballasts, back out to the Bi-Xenon Bulbs! :mrgreen:

The bi-Xenons mean you get HID Dipped AND Main Beams in the one kit!! 8)

[Jazz]

That sound trick James, will you have them done for the RR?

Whats your "other" item you mention :?:

[marky mark]

looks good quality stuff pickle. echo jazz, what you bought :lol:

if you want a hand taking your bumper on and off, i will give you a hand. expert now as i have had mine on and off 56 times today :roll:

[PICKLE]

You finished now then Mark?? Get the piccies up then if you have! :mrgreen:

Not telling you what I've bought :P you'll have to wait! I wont get it/them before next weekend anyhow I doubt. :(

Hopefully have the lights fitted by then though [-o<

Its nothing big/major, just some tarty bits :mrgreen: :roll:

[marky mark]

pretty much. have a bit of an obstacle to overcome though. the huge RCM iduction kit wont fit. its hard on the IC pipes and bonnet. have a solution and will do it tommorow. i have been a complete pufff with the chopping out and DV installation (thats why i have been so long) but it looks really nice IMO. pics tommorow night hopefully.

YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE HOW MUCH I HAVE HAD TO CHOP OUT OF EVERYTHING :evil:

[marky mark]

PMSL at the change in thread title BTW :lol:

about time to :wink:

[PICKLE]

He he he! :mrgreen:

My other little tarty bits have arrived!! 8)

Anyone want to guess what it is?? :P

[kevp1]

Is she from Thailand???!!!!!!! :D :D :D

[PICKLE]

:mrgreen: LOL.............I wish! :P

[Jazz]

He he he! :mrgreen:

My other little tarty bits have arrived!! 8)

Anyone want to guess what it is?? :P

:?: Give us a clue

[PICKLE]

Nah, this is stupid!! I'll just post up a couple of pics! :mrgreen:

Told you it was nothing major, just a set of these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/Nuts5.jpg

These weigh F*** all! :shock: Went for the Titanium ones.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/Nut.jpg

They are open ended, and I think they will look 8) when fitted. \:D/

Sorry for the big build up, LOL :whistle:

[Jazz]

LOL you Tart :P

[marky mark]

jealous! jealous!

titanium.........mmmmm......have a sheet lying around have to see what i can do with it :roll:

yeah, i think they will look good mate. dont expect to keep them cos i have your adress :wink:

on a serious note, you MUST make sure you copaslip them pickle. titanium picks up on steel really easily and when it does it is a complete pig to remove anything.

i bet you are out there now painting the visible end of the wheel studs in silver arent you, you great fairy?

[PICKLE]

Will do Mark. ;)

Not painting the ends of studs though, they wont really show as these are a little bit longer than OE. Only got them cos my Nuts are going rusty, and scabby!!

:shock: (Did I just say that out loud!!??) :P :mrgreen: :P

[terryb]

These weigh F*** all! :shock: Went for the Titanium ones.



He James - be careful that they're not oo light, else you'll unbalance the rotating mass of the wheels.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

YOU TART!!!

[PICKLE]

:P Hope alls well your end Terry?? :?:

[marky mark]

hey pickle, where did you get your mesh from in front of the intercooler. appologies if you have told me before but i cant find it!

[PICKLE]

Ermmmmmmm........ B+Q!! :oops:

Its Ally stuff thats in either gold or silver. Painted mine with Black Smoothrite paint before fitting.

It will need touching in every once a while (stone chips/flies etc), but its no hardship!

[marky mark]

cheers pickle,

when you next go up there to look for something to sort your rusty and scabby nuts out, can you pick me some mesh up for me as well :P

[PICKLE]

cheers pickle,

when you next go up there to look for something to sort your rusty and scabby nuts out, can you pick me some mesh up for me as well :P

That'll be the quacks mate, not B&Q !!! :mrgreen:

[PICKLE]

Right then, Finally got round to fitting the HID Headlight kit that I bought recently.

I had a little drama, with one of the bulbs being faulty, but got it all sorted now. :mrgreen:

Before, I had a set of the Phillips Blue Vision bulbs, and TBH they weren't any better than the OE's. I hated the fact that they looked really yellow. The Sidelights they supplied were better, but then they made the headlights look even more yellow!! :( This was made worse by me buying a set of white LED sidelight bulbs.

I bought an HID Headlight kit, which uses Bi-Xenon bulbs, so that you get the Xenon on BOTH the Dipped and Main beam (most of the cheaper kits only have it on Dipped!)

Fitted this morning, and here are the results (apologise for the bad pics, but I took them in the garage this morning, whilst trying to make it dark in there!! :mrgreen: )

BEFORE: (With LED sidelights)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00019.jpg


AFTER :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/HIDS2.jpg

I think you'll agree, they look far better now. 8)

[marky mark]

yup, they most certainly do 8)

[Jazz]

Looking good :mrgreen:

[PICKLE]

Another pic of lights. this time taken outside at dusk. (Excuse the rusty piece of cr4p next to it in the background!! :P )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/HIDS3.jpg


Also, I got round to fitting the Lightweight Wheel nuts that I bought a while ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/Nutsfitted.jpg

Not the greatest pic, but they do look better in the flesh IMHO. Ruined a little bit by the locking Nut, but I'm not removing them just incase!!! Too many pikey gypo's around these days!! :mrgreen:

[marky mark]

mmmm.

cant you mod the last wheel nut somehow and make a tool for it (maybe drill a hole from side to side and press a bit of 5mm stainless bar through it so it protrudes a mm or so out of each side, then fettle a socket) so that you cant get it off with a normal socket.

the nuts look really good (tempted myself :roll:) but let down badly by the odd one out :cry:

send em up. pretty sure i can do something with them :wink:

[PICKLE]

Not a bad thought Mark. Not sure a public forum would be the best place to discuss this though!! :mrgreen: :P

I have a spare 4 nuts (supplied 24 which is a bonus I suppose)

Only thing is, if someone spots there is no obvious Lock nut, they are gonna have a go at them, which could cause more damage than having 1x silver nut does?? :?

[marky mark]

it will be obvious, you will see the bar from the end but it wont protrude from the sides enough to look cack.

so for the last 3 years when you had all silver nuts, did anyone try to nick them :wink: or did you paint one of em black as a visual deterrent :P

[Alan_200sx]

Great write up, intresting read, cheers.

[PICKLE]

Thanks for the Wedge Iwan. It was for nothing more than to hack to bits I'm afraid :oops:

Met up with Mark this morning, and he passed it on to me :wink:

Chopped it about to make an open wedge to feed my Cold Air Tube to the filter better 8)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00042.jpg

Probably wont use this til the summer months, but wanted to get it done to use on the RR day soon. :mrgreen:

Could've just removed the Original wedge, but then that'd be too easy wouldn't it!! :mrgreen:

Thanks Again Iwan/Mark

[marky mark]

:shock: that was quick. thought you were going out for lunch!

[PICKLE]

:mrgreen: Did it after you left. ;)

[womblerulz]

where did you get your hid's from please....

[PICKLE]

They are available from here........

www.hids4u.co.uk

Mine are the X5 Bi-Xenon kit. :)

[bobfuller]

Pickle

Can you give me the spec of your titanium wheel nuts and where you got them from plus the price would be nice.

Thanks

Bob Fuller

[PICKLE]

Well, after what can only be described as a brilliant day yesterday I can honestly say that I feel its all been worth it!! LOL :mrgreen:

Had a brilliant day over @ G-Force in Aylesbury, as part of an immaculately organized P1WOC Rolling Road Day. Marky Mark was head organizer, and a massive thankyou goes to him, aswell as Bob Rawle for bringing along his Data Logging Equipment, and handing out advice to all.

Last but not least, Adam and the guys @ G-Force for a fantastic welcome, and for treating each car as if it were their own and taking care of them and us :mrgreen:

Thanks too, to the Photographer from JTuner Magazine who was very friendly, and took some great photos during the day. (Looking forward to the issue in which we feature ;) )

Well, now I have blabbled on about it, I out to show you why I'm so happy :mrgreen:

Basically, since the car was last on a Rolling Road, 23/04/2005 @ WRC Technologies
I have only changed 1x thing. I changed the Downpipe from a 3" tapering to 2 1/2" version, to a 3" all the way to end version.

I felt that this was an area of restriction with the old D/P, so it was changed to the latter meaning the Exhaust is now 3" all the way from the back of the turbo, to exit.
NO re-map was done to accomodate this, as its a fairly minor modification to the car in its current spec.

So, back to yesterday. I was turning up there with all intention of getting the car to run its Max boost target of 1.5bar on the rollers. Previously @ other RR days, it has only managed to run 1.2bar max.
With the figures that Mark gave G-Force from his GPS system, they were able to punch in the correct figures to calibrate the rollers to suit the P1 perfectly. (something that I am sure that the other RR's I have been to have not done??)

So, the car runs up, and hits pretty much the same boost as I get on the roads (was seeing 1.6bar on the way up there though!! :mrgreen: )

Results..................................

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/GFPTo.jpg

395.5BHP and 332ft/lb TORQUE \:D/ :twisted: 8)

This equates to 300BHP @ the wheels. :mrgreen:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/GFPPw.jpg

Car hit 1.5bar, and held 1.4bar Boost to the redline!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/GFPB.jpg

Compare that with the previous graph @ WRC Technologies, and its clear to see that the car wasn't run up properley @ WRC Tech at all!! :evil:

(NOTE 3rd gear used @ WRC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/WRCgraph2.jpg


So, to conclude..... I am happy, the car seems happy, and a big thankyou must go out to Bob Rawle for the superb mapping. No other real thanks needed, as I did all the work myself!! :P :whistle: :P

Thanks for reading 8)

[Jazz]

Nice one James, well done! So when we seeing 400 :P

[marky mark]

Great stuff Pickle, seriously well chuffed for you mate, and well deserved for all the hard work and messing around you have done. could not have happenned to a nicer bloke IMO 8)

Your face was an absolute picture yesterday, sooooo different from WRC where you were a right miserable ****!

Just took pics of my graphs and will stick em on my project thread in a minute. it is a really interesting comparrison with yours for sure :D

[Viv]

8) 8) 8)
Nice pay-off for all the work you've put in!
\:D/ =D> \:D/

[PICKLE]

Not alot been happening of late.

Have done a few more bits of tidying up.

I removed the centre consol around the stereo and heater controls, as it was scratched in places and it kinda bugged me looking at it.

Rubbed it down, and painted it F**D Metallic Grey to match the gearknob surround that a mate did for me a year or 2 back.

Pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/Heatersurround.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/HeaterSurround2.jpg


Mark also sent me some of his Patented Header Tank Insulators, so I managed to get them to fit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/HeaderInsulator2.jpg

I also changed the plugs, and fitted the Zerosports Cool Thermostat that I got from Pete ;) ready for the Sahara conditions of the UK summers!! :mrgreen: :P

Have also purchased some wheels, but currently waiting to get some tyres for them before revealing the new look for '06

Also spent hours going over the car with a new toy! Got myself one of those Random Orbit Polishers from the USA. Has given me some good results, but have not had a decent days sun to get any decent piccies to post up!! :(

Just need Jazz and Marty etc to post up some new piccies/details etc in their threads now, as its getting abit boring in here lately!! :mrgreen:

[Bob_R]

Sounds about ready to see if we can sort that hesitation out, I'll mail you some suggestions, be after the next bank holiday.

bob

[marky mark]

My god you have spira-wrapped plug leads :lol:

tut tut whats the horrible looking 'spare' hole in the inlet pipe bracket? thought you would have made a new one :D

How come you have not admitted to being a clumsy oaf and breaking things then? :mrgreen:

Did the injector seals not cure the hesitation?

[Jazz]

You running out of things to do yet James :P

I take it the hesitation isn't inherent with the stock ecu like you perviously though. How bad is it?

Get your wheels on mate :D

[Bash_P1-360]

Pickle, WOW! wat a thread i must say. i just spent a good hour reading this whole thread and being a novice at this stuff i understood most of it, well explained, ur the DON mate! ur car is absolutley stunning :D . just as a mater of curiosity wats ur car stand u at roughly?

[bobfuller]

Pickle

I have just seen the digital temprature guage you have fitted in the dash. Is this the outside temprature? And where did you find the guage as it seems to fit the hole perfectly.

Thanks

bob Fuller

[Jazz]

Bob,

The gauge is for measuring the charge temperature, it is connected to a temp sensor that sits just before the throttle body. I'm sure Pickle has put up a pic showing its install, if not on this thread it will be on Marks. The gauge is from Nomad racing, comes complete with the sensor. Will need to enlarge the hole for it in the centre console, if you look at the second one Pickle is using you can see it slightly larger than the others.

Found a link with all the info Click (http://p1woc.co.uk/postnuke/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=8410)

[PICKLE]

Bob R: Yep, ready when you are ;)

Mark: The spiral wrap was there for before the Insulators were fitted, as the Return Water hose from the turbo touched the Plug leads, so put some of that on, and had some Neoprene type foam under the pipe to seperate it from the leads. (if you look at older pics, you will see that I also had some heat wrap around that hose too!! ;) ) Not really needed now, as there is a nice gap due to re-positioning.

Will remove it just for you! :P And Oh yes, I broke the Overflow 'nipple' from the Header Tank so had to get Mark to re-pair it with his super-duper pigeon sh*t welding!!! :mrgreen: :P The extra hole is where I had to use my OE Header Tank in the meantime and it didn't fit the Induction stabiliser properly!! Its staying anyhow, as it 'lightens' the car a little with the extra hole! :P :twisted:

Bash: I don't really know, and can't expect to put a finger on it as it has all been done over 4-5yrs. Can't put a price on the time I have spent on the car, and some of the parts were bought at bargain prices etc... Thanks for the comments though :)

Bob F: as Jazz says I just 'punched' out the blank in the dash surround. Moved the Bright switch over to that hole. Then you need to enlarge the hole you want to mount the Gauge in by quite abit!! Use a small file and keep checking til the gauge 'clicks' into place. ;)

Have got hold of another Original P1 centre section which has also been painted the same colour, to put in the car if plans change etc... ;)

Ps Jazz pull yer finger out and get yours sorted! :D

Apparently the problem I have with the car is a 'slight' drivability issue. Bob seems to think it could be an issue with the OE ECU trying to control the 740's on light throttle, as he had similar probs with another car running 740's on OE ECU. Also have read that 740's are not very nice when run at lowish Fuel Pressure, and I am running 3bar atmo with them. Had a pump play-up a while ago, so thought running the bigger injectors would ease the strain on the pump, as opposed to running 550's at higher Fuel Pressure!!

Seems it may have caused other issues?? Bob thinks he has a trick up his sleeve so we shall see ;)

[marky mark]

Bob F there is a guide somewhere in my projects thread for fitting. You could use it for an outside temp gauge, just put the sensor in the grill or somewhere hidden away.

Bumper may be better, away from radiator.

I will give you that Pickle (pigeon sh1t welding :lol: ) not my greatest bit of engineering but it was in a bastid of a place!!!

Can i call you Don now then Bash has christened you?

Don queen or something like that? :mrgreen:

[PICKLE]

Steady Mark!!!

Keep an eye out for those horse's heads ;) :mrgreen:

[matt_holley]

Have also purchased some wheels, but currently waiting to get some tyres for them before revealing the new look for '06



Will this new look be at combe this saturday :)

[PICKLE]

Afraid Not Matt. :(

Skint at the moment, so no tyres yet!! Not even sure If I'm gonna defo be there this Saturday with the car. May just be watching with a few mates.

[marky mark]

Have also purchased some wheels, but currently waiting to get some tyres for them before revealing the new look for '06


Here you go - Pickles new 06 look :mrgreen:
.
http://www.liberace.com/images/postcard6.jpg

[Dave]

lol @ Mark

[Jazz]

:P :P :P

[Section5]

Very sexy....pmsl

[Jazz]

Very sexy....pmsl

I worry about you sometimes :P

[Section5]

It's even STi Pink :P :P :P

[bobfuller]

Thanks guys. I have just sourced a blue backgroud one from ebay for £26.50 delivered!! Much better than over £42 IMHO.

Bob Fuller

[marky mark]

Bob,

Thread on SN the other day about the ebay ones! I would send it back if i were you! will find the link :wink:

[Dave]

I read that thread too, everyone said they were crap and weren't worth the money!

[marky mark]

heres the thread im talking about Bob

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505355&highlight=nomad

[PICKLE]

Thought I'd just up-date the thread a little as a few things have been added/changed since.

Firstly, I have another set of wheels to fit to the car. Gone for something a 'little' different. Thery are a set of Rota Tarmac's, which are basically the same as the P1 wheels :mrgreen: but I have gone for the Bronze finish ;)

TBH they are Not as Bronze as I was hoping for, but nonetheless, they are different to the majority of colours/style that people seem to be fitting to the P1's. :P
Thats what I want, to have the car looking a little 'different' to the majority ;)

Not fitted to the car yet, hope to very soon, and will add a pic when I have done so. They are all ready to go with new tyres etc.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/ROTA2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00001-1.jpg

Also, thanks to Mark I now have one of his shiny metal plates to fix my spare P1 Plaque under the bonnet. :mrgreen:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00003-1.jpg

He also made up some Tuffnol Header Tank Insulators for me, which he kindly milled down to suit my layout. ;) Thanks Mate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/HeaderInsulator1.jpg

Also, a Big Thanks must go to Bob Rawle for the loan of his Version 4 Forge Dumpvalve, to help me cure a niggling problem that has bugged the car for some time now!! When easing off throttle from positive (say 1/2bar) boost, the car would 'Jerk' quite violently, making for an unpleasant ride sometimes for passengers. :(

This was put down to the standard Dumpvalve being abit too 'soft' and releasing built up boost pressure abit soon back into the turbo system!. So, Bob loaned me his ver4 Re-circ DV which I duly plumbed into the car to suit. With a little experimentation of shims and springs, I now have eradicated the problem almost entirely!! :mrgreen:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00006-1.jpg

All in all, very happy with the car as it stands now. 8)

Keep your eyes peeled for a future feature on the car soon in a certain tuning mag ;) :mrgreen:

[marky mark]

Still gonna reserve judgement on the wheels till they are on! did you get the caps sorted in the end?

No worries with the bits and bobs.

What tuning mags that then? Gay piano players monthly? :mrgreen:

[Jazz]

Nice one James, glad to hear you've sorted out your jerking problem.

First time I've seen bronze, like to see how they look once on the car. Weren't you tempted to do the magazine shoot with them?

[Launchmotorsport]

nice mate,surely there cant be anymore that you can do :)

[PICKLE]

Gonna try with no caps to start with, but I have bought some colour coded ones from RareRims for next to nothing!! ;)

Trust me, they will look 8), and at least they will be different to the OE, and the PFF's that everyone is fitting these days :mrgreen:
Jazz, Mag feature was about P1's so I thought it best to keep OE's on for recognition of the type of car it is ;)

Hopefully get the wheels on this week so pic will be up soon. In dark light they look similar to the OE Anthracite, but in bright sunshine, the Bronze really 'pops' out into view. :)

Rich, only engine and drivetrain realistically, but I will leave that down to people such as yourself etc, as I really don't have the funds to allow for any 'playing' in that area ;)

[P1NW_Mrs]

Pickle - Stunnight engine bay nothing like a tip top engine bay makes a car so much more impressive!!

Thinking about doing similar stuff with ours, we used to have a GTR Skyline and painted all the HKS pips gold there should be some pics of it on here somewhere that Andy posted. I have to say I really adored working on the engine bay of the Skyline as it was a lot less fiddley than the p1 and was easy to make it look good there was alot more I had planned to do but didnt get chance before we sold it to make way for the p1.

By they way who painted you calipers as I noticed you got the subaru detailing painted on ther also. We have just painted ours a couple of weeks back and was considering detialing the subaru name but was concered I would make a mess of it so was just wondering if you did yours yourself and how?

[PICKLE]

hi, thanks for the nice comments! ;)

I painted the calipers themselves, then left to dry. Then I used a nice flat piece of wood (small bit of 2x4 works well :mrgreen: )
Paint the piece of wood on the flat side the colour you want use, and press it against the SUBARU lettering!!

Ta Dah!! :) You then have the perfect outline to fill in the lettering neatly with a small ART type brush ;)

Easy peasy :)

[PICKLE]

OK. Pic of wheels on. Please excuse the 4x4 wheelarch gap, as I had only just let it down off the jack, so suspension hadn't settled.
I think they look 8) especially in the sunshine of today :mrgreen:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/DSC00009-1.jpg

[Dave]

I think they look really nice bud :cool:

[j healy]

look nice but i reckon they look far better in person with the bronze tint.
i think it would have been a mistake to go too far from the oe wheel style.
i think the oz alloys suit the p1 perfectly but they are alittle commen on the forum.good choice.

[PICKLE]

Still not sure myself!? :mrgreen:

Keeping the OE's safe just incase ;)

[marky mark]

Prefer the o.e's im afraid, but MAY look better in the flesh!

[j healy]

problem is that prodrive have probably found one of the best looking wheels for any subaru but with the sonic blue and anthracite it just looks right plus any other wheel on a p1 looks too different.

[PICKLE]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/RotasOn.jpg

This what I will be more used to seeing!! This is a pic on a slightly overcast day, and not in direct sunlight!! :mrgreen:
The 'duller' Bronze is more what I was looking for. Just enough to look different from the normal Anthracite.

Bonus is, they are actually lighter than the O.Z's!!! Not weighed them, but can definitely notice the difference when you pick them up.

J, you are dead right there, I think only the WR1 type wheels (in Dark colour) look as good on a P1, but then that's been done before by a few members on here etc... ;) :P

[j healy]

agree pickle,the wr1 wheel does look good but alot of them about now.
its probably a case of seeing all the p1`s with the wrc1 wheel that anything different just looks odd.given time i reckon these wheels may end up looking as good if not better.the bronze with sonic blue should go well together.

[Jazz]

They look better in that photo for sure, I quite like them :D

[P1NW_Mrs]

Excellent thanks for the tip on painting the calipers will tell andy about it and see if we do it - cool!!

Thanks again

[PICKLE]

Well, the car has been featured in a magazine, which is a first for me!! :mrgreen:
I have always wanted to get a car featured in print, there's something about it which helps to recognize seeing the hard work pay off!!

Both Marky Mark and I got a 6 page feature in Issue 68 (Sept 06) of Japanese Performance magazine :mrgreen: 8)

There are some pics of the photoshoot below if you are not a reader of the mag.
Big thankyou to Mark for this ;) made me a very happy/proud little boy!! LOL :mrgreen:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/JapPerfSpread1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/JapPerfSpread2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/JapPerfSpread3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/05-06-06/Jap-Per-12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/05-06-06/Jap-per-11.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/05-06-06/Jap-Per-10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/05-06-06/Jap-Per-5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/05-06-06/Jap-Per-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/P14KLE/05-06-06/Jap-Per-1.jpg

[kevp1]

Spot on mate.

Been said many a time on here, but two stunning looking cars. and your right about being featured, had a cossie featured in fast ford a few years back and is a great feeling.

Cars are a credit to you both and the time you have spent on them. Well done.

Look forward to the issue to read the feature.

Kev

[antony]

top cars, top photos 8)
Need to buy that mag is it out from today ?

cheers

[marky mark]

Yep, in the shops today. Just picked mine up :D

Im glad Pickle put them pics up, cos they blow my PC up every time i open them. :lol:

One thing i will say about the pics - The shine thhat was apparent on the cars on the day has not come across as well as i had hoped. They really did look together. What weas nice was Phil Royle commented to to us both how clean shiny and well presented the cars were on the day and it was a long time since he had photographed such well represented cars 8)

Fair play to Pickle, he had a 100 mile drive up to my place the day before and just a wash and wax when he got here wheras i had my car off the road for a week and was a total gay boy with it!

As always James your car looks superb in the pics 8)

[kevp1]

If either of you want any poster size prints doing (as i presume the digital files will be well up to scratch) drop me a line and i'll sort them out for you guys.

[PICKLE]

Thanks peeps!

As mark said, the shine on the 2x cars on the day was awesome, it was a nice bright sunny day, and in the 'flesh' they looked very 8) together I must say.
Phil's comments on them being 'minters' was nice to hear as you say Mark. I for one have sometimes been rather disappointed when i have seen Mag featured cars for real at shows etc..
ALOT of them are quite rough round the edges when seen in the flesh.


Must just say, the car looks abit different than that currently, as I have the Bronze Rota's fitted still :mrgreen:

Ps Kev, I must shamefully admit to having one of the pics in A4 size hanging from my wall! :oops: :oops:

Might get in touch in the future though ;)

Ta

[kevp1]

Nowt to be ashamed of mate!!!!!!!

=D> =D> =D> =D>