turbo ?

[p1prodrive]

what turbo is capable of 400 horses, and what prices am i looking at :?:

cheers matt

[Launchmotorsport]

what turbo is capable of 400 horses, and what prices am i looking at :?:

cheers matt
mine is,and i haven't got a clue what one it is,but i will on saturday. [-o< \:D/ \:D/ ,cost wise it was done on an exchange basis and i think i had to shell out a few more quid,i'll dig out my receipts.

[p1prodrive]

cheers rich i would appreciate it :wink:

[p1prodrive]

any luck on the prices Rich :?:

[p1prodrive]

what are the best choice for me
1. APS SR55 - (capable of 500 horses)
2. PE (power enterprise) PE1820 - (capable of 450 horses)

both these turbos are from the states and #2. is a P20 housing is this what i need as iam not to
sure?

cheers matt

[Dave]

Check out Andy F's site for some info

http://www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk/16307.html

[PICKLE]

Right. What are you planning in the way of other mods to the car to run along with the turbo??

If you are not touching the internals, ie keeping stock rods,pistons,crank etc....
Then you can only really run 1.5bar max Boost. Any more will kill the motor eventually.
This limits your turbo choice.

The 2x turbos you mention, are really for cars that are running upwards of 1.5bar boost for them to behave properly. They will be abit laggy at anything under 1.6-7bar +

The P20 exhaust housing is the larger of the 2, (P18) being the other. The 20 can ultimately flow more, thus creating more power, but the trade off is as always, more lag, and slower spooling..

Ask the experts, and they will always tell you to choose the smallest possible turbo for the bhp figure you are aiming for.

Ie, in your case, I suspect like me, that you want 400bhp, yet keep the standard internals.
So, in that case, I would go for the same turbo that Marky Mark, and Marty are running.

This is the GT/VF Hybrid from RogerClarke Motorsport, with the P18 housing. The P20 would be abit large for 1.5bar IMHO.

Also, when/if you do speak to RCM about it, you will need the Inlet Pipe to go with it. Also, see if they will do a discount for 2x of the Turbo's, as I would love one too, but can't afford it at the mo! :( :P

[p1prodrive]

yeah i have done Dave i just need to know a bit more about these too :wink:

edited as i pickle got there first...lol

pickle you have near enough hit the nail on the head and if you want to do a deal on 2 of these turbo's then thats fine with me i dont have the cash right now but once we both have we shall do a deal :twisted: i will contact RCM in the morning as a ball park figure and will let you know :D
and i totaly agree that aturbo works best whilst maxed out with minimal lag :roll:

thanks

matt

[j healy]

fellas,i`m saving up for the same turbo.maybe its cheaper if there were 3 of us.hope you don`t mind me butting in.
i`ve been told that the p20 housing is more suited to a 2.5l engine than the p18 which is suited to the 2.0l

[marty]

I have the GT35 p18 on mine running 1.45bar 360-370 bhp at 1.9bar it will produce 410bhp.RCM have told me that 380 is maximum power on the standard conrods,any more and they will come through the block.The turbo alone cost £1,600 plus the fitting kit.I will be ditching this turbo next year and going the twisted route,so i will be selling this turbo next year.
Marty

[p1prodrive]

fellas,i`m saving up for the same turbo.maybe its cheaper if there were 3 of us.hope you don`t mind me butting in.
i`ve been told that the p20 housing is more suited to a 2.5l engine than the p18 which is suited to the 2.0l

no probs at all j healey YHPM :wink:

[p1prodrive]

anyone else considering changing there turbo ?

and would like a bit of discount then let me know because the more the merrier and the most important its cheaper :lol:

[PICKLE]

I honestly dont think you will get any discount from RCM to be honest Matt. They dont seem to be the sort of company who does group buys etc...

As Marty said, the Turbo is around £1400 + fitting kit, + Inlet Hose etc...

I would like one of these turbo's BUT It would need to be a good price to make me change from the Hybrid Im using at the moment.

Just a thought! I'm sure Mark will voice his view when he returns. ;)

[Money]

RCM discount is a no no

You will spend around £1000 for a 400bhp turbo.

Can source a very good garrett for you if interested :D

[Launchmotorsport]

i may be able to swing some thing with GGR,seeing as i'm their favorite customer :roll: ,i'm speaking to them any way about doing some kind of promo/demo work using my engine and i may be able to get various discounts if i pull it off [-o<

[p1prodrive]

well there goes the RCM idea, Rich seriously could you find out what they can do for 400bhp turb etc when you pick the car up [-o<

thanks very much :wink:

[Launchmotorsport]

well there goes the RCM idea, Rich seriously could you find out what they can do for 400bhp turb etc when you pick the car up [-o<

thanks very much :wink:
yes mate,i've got to have a sit down with them to discuss my options.want i want to do is start to go to shows and get the car in a few decent mags,and start to plug the companys that have done the work on my car,i,ve got things verbally set up with a few local companys(spec r,and krych trimming)all i need to do is get acouple more on board and get my website up and running and i'll be there.if anyone on here wants anything doing,i'll reduce my commission in order for you to get a bigger discount. :wink:

[p1prodrive]

pickle and j YHPM :wink:

matt

[j healy]

matt i can`t find a pm.
could`nt send it again could you. :oops:

[p1prodrive]

no probs j incoming.

[p1prodrive]

j YHPM again

[PICKLE]

I have only just picked myself up off the floor after reading your Pm regarding the price of the turbo Matt!! :shock: :shock:

[p1prodrive]

pickle - i know it was very steep but simon from RCM assure me that they were trade, so if just 1 of us wanted it would be more !!

[PICKLE]

Yeah, not knocking you, just RCM's prices!!

F**K!! I could buy a brand new 2.5 bottom end, and get it to my door from USA for the same sort of price!! :)

Think I will wait til something else crops up. :mrgreen:

[p1prodrive]

ok mate no probs

[Launchmotorsport]

ok mate no probs
i spoke to graham today about various discounts and stuff,and he's up for it,i just need to speak to them on monday and find out what they have and what prices i can get. :wink:

[tsedan]

im looking for a turbo too,im only running standard internals with tmic,but i want more power,if this is the turbo you all recommend then count me in.

[marky mark]

hey guys,

bit early for me to give a definitive ok on this turbo, will know more when im back home and mapped on august 20th. but it all feels good so far i have to say

pickles comments on the previous page about turbo selection are spot on though. what is the point running a 500 bhp turbo at less than 400 horsepower. it will just be to laggy.

as said before as well, as you start to get over 350bhp, the standard P1 bottom end is a bit marginal. the new age botom end in mine will be a fair bit better, but to run 400 bhp reliably you need conrods and pistons IMO.

this is why i chose the garret P18. it will still work well at the lower boost levels using cast pistons. it will be interesting to see what boost bob maps mine at with the slightly better subaru forged jobbies in.

as for the cost.......well RCM aint cheap for sure. obviously i dont know what you have been qouted but pickle knows what i paid for mine :wink: , and i think you will struggle to get discount out of RCM unless you are in a position to help them out in various ways, which rather fortunately i was / am!

[p1prodrive]

ok mate no probs
i spoke to graham today about various discounts and stuff,and he's up for it,i just need to speak to them on monday and find out what they have and what prices i can get. :wink:

will look forward to hearing from you Rich when you delt with goodies :lol:

[Launchmotorsport]

ok mate no probs
i spoke to graham today about various discounts and stuff,and he's up for it,i just need to speak to them on monday and find out what they have and what prices i can get. :wink:


will look forward to hearing from you Rich when you delt with goodies :lol:
no probs Matt,i'll call them monday morning and get him to e mail me some info :)

[p1prodrive]

nice one Rich !

[Money]

Ill get you boys some garretts for prices that will make you cry.

Forget RCM/GGR, their prices are so high (even though they can get away with it as their work is spot on) that any discount, you can still pick up cheaper elsewhere. Just got to look guys!!!

Jonesting, drop me a PM or email when you get a chance. need to chat to you about something :D